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going on in washington. we know this week that the house voted to extend the debt ceiling for a few months. we still face the sequestration and the continuing resolution. how does this play out? >> forever. >> feels like that. >> forever. they don't agree. so we're seeing an overlay of this, you know, one side the republicans, the other side the democrats. and i must say post-election, president obama has become more aggre aggressive. military spending, they don't agree with what taxation should be, title, on and on and on. gun control, they don't agree. and on the other hand, you know, we have this sort of slow economy that makes it more difficult to cut a deal. and i should add to that, a constitutional crisis in a way because this whole debt ceiling has been a weapon that the house of representatives have used to gain power. it's not just the republicans versus the democrats. it's the house versus the president. i don't know how it the play out. >> meanwhile, the marketses are on fire. the s&p 500 hitting a new five-year high along with the dow jones industrial average. what is d
should add to that, a constitutional crisis in a way because this whole debt ceiling has been a weapon that the house of representatives have used to gain power. it's not just the republicans versus the democrats. it's the house versus the president. i don't know how it the play out. >> meanwhile, the marketses are on fire. the s&p 500 hitting a new five-year high along with the dow jones industrial average. what is driving the stocks and do you think it's sustainable for the year? >> the part of it that i understand is that some of the risk has been pulled out of the market. so most recently that the u.s. has got three months before the next thing happening. some of the risks. and maybe just the election was determined and people aren't necessarily happy, some are, some aren't. but it's solved. take some uncertainty away. markets don't like uncertainty. so even though it wasn't very likely the european would fall apart, even though it wasn't very likely the u.s. would fall on its debt, pulling it out of the equation lifted markets a lot. >> meanwhile, new appointment, in the obama administration. timot
be averted after how's republicans a-- house republicans agreed to suspend the debt ceiling. a measure that the democratically controlled senate agreed to vote on. we went to capitol hill to meet with senator mac thornberry of texas who's the number two republican. i asked him what he thought about the guidance and whether it answered the questions that gop members have been raising. >> not really. i think a lot of us wanted dod to be serious about explaining the effects of sequestration before we ever got to this point and that would have in our judgment helped motivate people to find another way. other spending cuts to take the place of the sequestration. and i still think there are a lot of questions as the services work through there with some -- this with some accounts exempt. some not. some are going to be hit pretty hard. >> overall from a good fashion and at least trying to make clear that some of those are going to be dramatic cuts? >> it was a beginning but i still think there are lots of details to be fleshed out that most people including most members of congress do
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reaching an agreement on the filibuster, nothing profound, but that they will raise the debt ceiling to may 18. how will this impact the presidency? >> what the house did is a sign of what is ahead of us. they have not gone over the defeat from november. they have no leverage. they disvered theyave e leverage and now have to wait to back down. this is a face-saving device to kick it down the road until may. the president is in a much stronger position in dealing with the republicans in the house. >> do you agree with that? >> i always respect colby's opinion, but the president, like any reelected president, essentially, absent a national event where he becomes a dramatic figure, watches his popularity be rationed out day- by-day. he is strong now. it is hard to believe that he will be as strong a year from now. what we are facing is not simply the debt ceiling. what we are facing is the sequestration, the automatic cuts of a trillion dollars over 10 years, which many republicans are seeing a willingness, expressing willingness to let set in at the end of march, and that will mean another fight and struggle. all this will unfold in probably six months.
to change. [applause] the house will not consider another vote to increase the debt ceiling unless the senate passes a budget. we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] it will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we have never marched in lockstep. that is not what we do. and healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can do that in private without doing it in public. we need to give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for that. we should challenge the left and not each other. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays they call him the founder of the constitution. he lost some key governments -- arguments. he fought for plan to give the states the same number of states in the government. he wanted to give congress even more power. he wanted it to be able to veto state laws. madison argued vigorously for his side. when it came time to ratify the constitution, there was no greater advocate and james madison. he helped write editorials and called it the federalist papers.
delays the debt ceiling issue for three months, for punting, which it absolutely is, is the worst thing in the world. here is why, the economy is growing, housing is recovering and we're going to get a little bit of relief here. as the economy grows, we hope that-- we're going to-- >> adam. >> the problem that you have adam, as the economy is growing, and we're coming slowly out of this recession, you've got more taxes coming, payroll taxes are going up and you're going to have the higher rates, ben says is great, rich need to pay more, but basically keeps the lights on for three days and by the way, then you have obamacare taxes. >> and then here is the thing, gerri, there's never the right time. listen, it's not about punting right now. this is an extension -- remember the deal before with the debt ceiling, supposed to be the ultimate deal we'd never have to punt again. this leads to another punt, another punt and things are getting better let's not do it now. things are getting worse, let's not do it it now. and it's raining outside, let's not do it. let gerri talk for a minutes. >> according to the democrats, they're standing in the way of thi
representatives. republicans not only approved the debt ceiling deadline without a fight but did so without making usual demands for spending cuts. before you get too comfortable with that, think again. that debt limit increase is only a temporary three-month stopgap measure to give them more time for a budget resolution in the senate and a bigger budget battle ahead which brings me to the ducks. one lame duck to be precise. ever seen a lame duck? they can't fly far. they are lucky if they get off the ground. last week, president obama laid out his fight plan for the heights of to which he hopes to soar in his second term. his agenda may never find its wings if it is stymied in the tangle of capitol hill gridlock. a seemingly endless series of cliffs, ceilings sequesters and showdowns. the upcoming budget fight is only the first of many. remember the fiscal cliff? well, it never really went away. it was postponed for a couple months. we have the threat of automatic spending cuts looming over our heads march 1s. government shutdown on the 27th. we'll need a new spending bill to keep
. there will be a lot of pressure to do that. republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is concern for the white house. >> ryan took one of his famous charts on "meet the press." you can tell immediately what he thinks the problem is, more spending cuts are needed. paul ryan says increasing revenue is off the table for now. the gop, the tax hikes during the fiscal cliff stuff. do they do it again? >> he was also asked and side stepped whether or not you could close loopholes. it is another way to get revenue. that is what david gregory asked him. he had a nonresponse response to that. there are other ways to get revenue than across the board
they have extended the debt ceiling to another we three months tied to pay. what is the strategy? >> i don't think the g.o.p. have one. i saw a high ranking aide to the house leadership this weekend and he told me that --. >> hobnobbing with powerful people. >> they said they turned the corner and this was a shrewd move. i see it as you, a real problem that indicates that at best the republicans have tactical responses. bottom line, the spot getting his way. >> shell shocked from the election or leaderless or both or what? >> all of it. they did not think they would lose as badly as they did right up to election night. they have never gotten a handle on why, and we have a faction of hard right tea party people in the republican caucus in the house that will not let the moderate members, even really talk to obama, talking or compromise is out. >> was there an agenda missing? >> growing the economy. >> they are the most strategic group of people. though can not figure out what they believe in and how to fight obama. >> are they on the wrong side of social issues? >> shear what they should do. they could be on some of it but it is not the social issues but the big quest
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